PANIC! @ Membrane.com

The Mind's Eye @ Membrane.com MegaEpix Enormous Presents

(with help from our friends @)
MEMBRANE.COM

If you can't link the page to my site, it's a dead end. Just
take it down.

Sadly,
- T


>yipes... hate to see that happen...
>its had such a good response
>
>let me ask da bossmen what to do?
>
>it might help if i could assure them of the
>likelyhood that the site will live forever...
>that is why they are reluctant to put in da links...
>cuz the other end often turns into a deadend



Dooode...

FIrst of all merry xmas and all that good stuff...sorry I didn't get back
earlier, I was on vacation....

OK, maybe I'm overreacting. I'd hate to have to take it down too.
However, the possibility that my site will move is not a good enough
reason not to provide a link. The web is, and hopefully will always be
about links.
If "da boss" does'nt see it that way then his site is not a living part of
the cyberspace community. It's a dead end already.

It's every webmaster's responsibility to occasionally check his
links to see if they have changed or become inactive and update them
accordingly. I've been doing this for 4 years. In addition, I always inform
anyone who links to me of any address changes and also re-register the
site with as many search engines as possible.

Thanks, let me know how it turns out -

T


... several letters go back in forth while we set-up a link to "your" site

... followed by several letters about how much money, time and materials
are spent on the artists by the volunteers


so, we try to explain what we're about:

Return-Path: tristan@randomrecords.com
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:02:30 -0500 (EST)
Errors-To:
X-Sender: tristan%randomrecords.com@pop3.randomrecords.com (Unverified)
To: The Membrane Domain
From: tristan
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re:Tristan]


>we are a cooperative of musicians and artists...
>that like to have sum phun doing business
>
>1) we can include your work on promo pieces.
>
>at the moment this includes:
>experiments with cdroms, dvd, audio cd's,
>vhs and cassette tapes. the promo's are meant to
>create networking and exposure opportunities
>
>most importantly, the experiments exposure you to
>new friends that will be collaborating on the projects
>
>
>2) there are joint venture opportunities...
>our latest project can be found at http://rombox.com/cd/
>
>with joint ventures, the artists agree on ownership terms
>for a project... then, manufacturing, distribution and marketing
>teams go to work on making it happen
>
>
>3) *our main thrust is in multimedia productions*
>
>other opportunities are available with video, etc.
>in fact, the name rombox comes from the stacks of cdrom
>players we have serving music projects over the net
>(see http://membrane.com/video/)
>
>...the possibilities seem endless
>
>
>
>the catch is: we don't need no stinkin' slackers
>
>there is no magical internet fairy that makes it all
>happen....
>
>all the artists work together to make shit happen...
>like a team
>
>are you hip?
>
>
>daniel
>psehelp@membrane.com


Daniel,

I'm hip.

Since I 've already quit drugs, alcohol, smoking, and eating meat, my new
year's resolution is to stop being a jerk to people who are trying to help
me.

I have to admit that when I saw the kewl spelling stuph I was less inclined
to take you seriously. (At this point, anyone can put up a website - the
Internet is full of people in home-movie/public - access cable mode.)
Perhaps I'm overly protective of the way my work and my image are
presented. That was one of the things that attracted me to the Web in the
first place - the way an artist can control his/her own "exposure".
However, anyone who can marshal the kind of resources you are talking about
deserves respect - you could be speaking fucking Esperanto for all I care.
And it sounds like you doing some really kewl stuph. ;-)

I've been on the Web for about 4 years - in fact I had one of the first
Internet musician's contact services. I'm no code genius, but I write well
(see this month's issue of Beats online music zine) and have some ideas
about how the medium can be used, particularly to benefit artists.

How can I get more involved?

Thanks - T



so, we say:


well, its funny you should mention "control his/her own 'exposure'"
and "marshal the kind of resources" in the same paragraph


perhaps this will be an opportunity for you to get more involved?


did ya notice in any of those emails... that we're workin' on
some team projects... and of particular coincidence is
one of the themes being explored:

Man as individuals vs. Man as an organism


we appear to be on the threshold of a microcosm...
control own 'exposure' vs. marshal combined resources?

maybe you/us can write sumpin' up about this... there's lots of
different angles....

the traditional - musician vs music industry

something new - the musician vs combined "low level" resources
(this could lead to political debate eg communism, etc.)

something bigger - individual freedom vs what is better for
the group

now, when i say versus... i'm not trying to mean in the sense
of contest... or maybe i am... i'm thinking as in comparing
and contrasting... and exploring the possibilities of
the both sides "winning"... the individual and the organism
both as winners


my purpose would be at least 3 fold:

1) have a way to explain to interested artists what
being part of the Membrane Domain is about

2) fit it in with the overall team project
(i can send ya more info on that if ya like)

3) gain an audience


what do ya think?



followed by prolonged silance...

then...

Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:46:14 -0400 (EDT)
Errors-To:
X-Sender: tristan%randomrecords.com@pop3.randomrecords.com
To: The Membrane Domain
From: tristan
Subject: legal action

Dear Sirs,

Please remove all of these pages from your website. They are outdated, they
come up first (before my official webpage) in searches for my name on most
search engines and you do not have my permission to use the material. In
short, you are in in copyright violation and are subject to legal action.


http://membrane.com/rombox/tristan/index2.html
http://membrane.com/rombox/tristan/begin.html
http://lyonesse.membrane.com/rombox/tristan/rrinter.html
http://membrane.com/rombox/tristan/itinerar.html

Thank you.
-Tristan Avakian






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